21 August 2009

Irving company wins NL government ferry contract

A company from the Irving Group has won a government contract to design a ferry for the Newfoundland and Labrador  ferry system.

According to a provincial government news release, Fleetway Inc. came out on top in an expressions of interest process begun this past May.

The release is unusually brief, does not provide any details on the company and erroneously describes it as a Newfoundland and Labrador company.

The original news release announcing the process contained much the same information as the announcement that Fleetway got the job.



WJM said...

They must have seen "NB" and thought it stood for Newfound-Brand.

Jerome said...

"With Budget 2009: Building on Our Strong Foundation, the Provincial Government is investing $44 million on the construction of new provincial ferries, $13.4 million on maintenance of the existing ferry fleet and $7 million for the maintenance of ferry terminals and wharf infrastructure."
How do these numbers compare with this kind of investment from previous governments?
I would be interested in knowing if this kind of proposed investment was the norm for previous administrations.

Edward G. Hollett said...

It's nice to have money, Jerome.

When you want to compare apples to apples, let me know.

In the meantime, how does the current government's record of secrecy and broken promises and give-aways compare to that of previous administrations?

Jerome said...

Ed, believe me, I wasn't being critical. I was looking for information.
I've been vilified by my friends and co-workers when I have maintained that Danny Williams is the luckiest premier this province has ever seen.
Stockwell Day's claim to fame was that he was Alberta's treasurer. There is not a lot of skill involved when money is shoveled into your coffers on an hourly basis.

Edward G. Hollett said...

Well, it's an apples and oranges comparison, Jerome for just the reason you cited.

With more money than...well... Craig Dobbin before he hauled ass out of Newfoundland, the government can actually spend it on new ferry construction and so forth. How the amounts compare is something I'll have to look up.

There have been periods of building but the current amount seems to be nothing near as wonderful as it is made out to be. I'll have a look and see what I can find.

Edward G. Hollett said...

Okay, Jerome: You asked and I have an answer.

There's more to it than it first appeared so I'll make it a separate post with all the links and background detail.

Anonymous said...


There must some metrics that can be used to provide a useful comparasion. Infrastructure spending based on percentage of revenues comes to mind. Maybe a spending to GDP could utilized. I think it would be an interesting analysis.

Edward G. Hollett said...

I spent some time looking at it this afternoon, 1916 and it doesn't pan out to a simple comparison of spending on new hulls or old hulls.

There is a bit of history to what has occured and also what is currently taking place.

The comparison of annual o and m spending is pretty straightforward but the capital one gets a bit interesting for reasons that will become obvious once I post the whole thing.

Anonymous said...

1916 here..

I look forward to the post.


Edward G. Hollett said...

Turns out jerome asked a good question. I had taken a lot of things for granted but when i looked more closely the story got much more interesting.

So a tip of the hat to Jerome and an apology for the earlier snarky reply.

babe in boyland said...

what i want to know is why the contract didn't go to marystown or another newfoundland or labrador yard? otherwise, "investing" in ferries is only like opening another walmart - convenient for consumers but not injecting any new energy into the provincial economy.

Edward G. Hollett said...

This is the third ferry in a string. The first two are under construction in local yards.

this appears to be only design work although it isn't clear what happened to another design that was in the works.

Anonymous said...

"The release is unusually brief, does not provide any details on the company and erroneously describes it as a Newfoundland and Labrador company."

Why does this kind of garbage happen in Newfoundland and Labrador and these people get away with it? Has Irving promised some "newfie"...tongue in cheek... official a condo in Hawaii? A. Morris formerly of Newfoundland

Edward G. Hollett said...

Not quite sure what you mean, A.Morris.

I suspect Fleetway just opened a local office to bid on the contract. it seems to be nothing more than that and in fact the release looks limke it was pulled together hastily.

Incidentally, I had a great laugh given your comments about underhanded dealing. I though you'd signed as "A. Morine" a fellow with an interesting history in Newfoundland.